My bad on a comment submission. I posted the Pt.1 of "OMG NEW PSB" on September 22, 2012. Today I got 3 comments in a row from a reader named
iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
That name again is:
iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
Commenter, first - can I just say your name is a delight? Unfortunately, with the "craps" reference, plus the sudden deluge of comments, plus - not trying to be unkind, here, but your spelling and grammar as well - I'm sorry to say, I took you to be a spammer. I deleted the comments. Whoops. When I checked afterwards, your profile shows you started in May 2013 with exactly 1 profile view (mine?). I feel especially bad if you started your profile up just to chime in with your thoughts on the Pet Shop Boys!
So to make up for it, I'm posting all your deleted comments right here, as a separate post in their own right. Thoughtful of me!
This was the text of comment one:
"WHY NO ONE TELL ME" because groups that make practicality the same dated style of production in all there music since there commercial/cultural irrelevancy over 6 years ago now.With every successive album release they bleed more and more fans, there presence in the Media and Radioplay becomes non existent to the point the most recent single release strugled to get anywhere near the top 100 ! Obviously no-ones interested in PSB's endless tired + turgid releases by now, long past there sell by date by now apart from a couple of hundred elderly men still living in the 80s culture + biased against modern technologies.Mainstream culture believes PSB stopped making music in the 90s (which they probably should have if they wanted to maintain the credibility they'd built up). Thus PSB have no presence in mainstream culture (given there long term lack of significant success - no surprise) everyone thinks they're unnoticed + buried with such pointless lack of success no one knows of PSBon OMG NEW PSB
iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
at 6:21 PM
This was the text of comment two:
No one told U because PSB is stuck in making record that sounded stale in 1990s never mind NOW. Being trapped in your 90s decade bubble when PSB where known, remembered by people in mainstream culture.. but for the rest of us PSB commercial success ended 6 years ago + they may as well have split up since know one remembers them accept for a hundred elderly men stuck in the 90s decade insanely biased against change like modern technologies on OMG NEW PSBThis was the text of comment three:
iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
at 6:37 PM
No one told U because PSB is stuck in making record that sounded stale in 1990s never mind NOW. Being trapped in your 90s decade bubble when PSB where known, remembered by people in mainstream culture.. but for the rest of us PSB commercial success ended 6 years ago + they may as well have split up since know one remembers them accept for a hundred elderly trapped in their 90's bubble where they are strongly biased by any new change or advancement. on OMG NEW PSB
iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
at 6:43 PM
So there's that. All three comments, original and unedited - thanks to the email of the comment, which was retained! Once again technology saves the day, and in doing so, proves it is A-OK.
So, iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz), in response to your remarks, some comments, some question:
1. Thanks for explaining the impact of cultural/commercial relevance on how much publicity a new album receives upon release! You seem confused as to when PSB stopped being relevant: in the '80s or in the '90s. It was in the '80s!
2. You make repeated reference to PSB's fans now being comprised of "elderly men" whose numbers you put variously at "a hundred" or "a couple hundred." I checked the last album's sales in its first week, and for accuracy's sake, you should probably say "at least ten thousand elderly men in the UK alone," and to err on the side of accuracy, probably we're talking "elderly gay men." But that's a minor quibble! A few thousand elderly men (of any sexual orientation!) are insignificant in terms of determining what's relevant in our culture, unless you believe in the illuminati of course.
3. Say, what's your take on Beethoven?
That's about it. #3 is kind of a stretcher as far as relevance goes. But to be fair, you didn't give me much to work with!
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So yeah - side note now, some other questions - more for others than to iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzz):
Do you listen based on your taste or that of others? Is your taste slavishly based on what's hot or dominant in current culture? In what you listen to, does pop culture peer pressure factor in? In short, when you are listening to music - is "relevant" relevant?
Caring what's relevant seems kind of a puss move to me (unless you are a paid music critic of course! A hard job, albeit not a terribly relevant one). But as long as people find joy in music, I guess I don't care how they go about it!
The main thing is: try new things. Beethoven, Chuck Berry, AC/DC and other folks who haven't changed their style since at least the 1970s are fine to like and fine to listen to! Even if not relevant. But for fuck's sake try new things too!
Try new things.
Artist: iCraps!!! now!!! TINNER!!! (zzzz)
Song: Hundred Elderly Men
Album: Trapped In Your 90s Decade Bubble
You gotta flip those last two, Mel.
Mel, when you say "Fuck art. Play the hits!" - is that a statement that bygone commercial relevance is more important than attempts at current critical relevance?
Not so much as more important, just a simple case usually of..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JwT5PqD1xM
OMG NEW PSB Pt.3
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/cdreviews/10159678/Pet-Shop-Boys-Electric-review.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_(Pet_Shop_Boys_album)
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